Charles Holmes and Grace Spelman sit down with The Ringer’s Rob Harvilla to discuss the Weeknd’s fifth studio album, Dawn FM (0:00). Then the two talk about Kanye West’s grandiose second date with Julia Fox (32:50) before jumping into the news that the Grammys have been postponed and weighing what happens next (49:50).
Producer: Justin Sayles
Associate Producer: Devon Renaldo
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Rob Harvilla is a senior staff writer at The Ringer and the host/author of ‘60 Songs That Explain the ’90s,’ though the podcast is now called ‘60 Songs That Explain the ’90s: The 2000s,’ a name everyone loves. He lives with his family in Columbus, Ohio, by choice.