Rachel and Van share their thoughts on the guilty verdict

Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay first discuss their childhood churches (2:00) and then react to the guilty verdict in the federal hate crimes trial of Ahmaud Arbery’s killers (17:00). Next, they talk about Juwan Howard’s altercation after Sunday’s Wisconsin-Michigan game and what type of punishment that merited (36:00), before closing with a conversation about how we talk to our parents about sex (1:11:00).

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay
Producers: Trudy Joseph and Mike Wargon

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Host of ‘Higher Learning’ and ‘The Midnight Boys.’
Rachel Lindsay is an author, attorney, media personality, and podcaster. She currently cohosts The Ringer’s ‘Higher Learning’ and ‘Morally Corrupt Bravo Show’ podcasts. Rachel is known for making history as the first Black lead in the franchise’s history on the 13th season of ABC’s ‘The Bachelorette.’

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