Van and Rachel are joined by Philip McHarris, a Black studies professor at the University of Rochester, to discuss the killing of Sonya Massey

Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay start the episode with a discussion of President Biden’s latest address to the country (17:00), as well as the current political landscape as the Republicans struggle to regroup (30:59). Then, they talk about what took place during the slaying of Sonya Massey by a deputy officer, before being joined by Philip McHarris to talk more about the situation (1:09:04).

Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay
Guest: Philip McHarris
Producer: Ashleigh Smith

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Host of ‘Higher Learning’ and ‘The Midnight Boys.’
Rachel Lindsay is an author, attorney, media personality, and podcaster. She currently cohosts The Ringer’s ‘Higher Learning’ and ‘Morally Corrupt Bravo Show’ podcasts. Rachel is known for making history as the first Black lead in the franchise’s history on the 13th season of ABC’s ‘The Bachelorette.’

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