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“The Two Matts!”

The Full Go returns as Jason opens the pod by welcoming ESPN’s Matt Miller to the podcast. The two chat about how Matt has changed as an NFL draft evaluator, someone he’s higher on than most, and the strengths of this draft. The two also chat about what the Bears should do with the no. 10 pick (1:58). Then, Jason welcomes ESPN’s Matt Bowen to talk about the NFC North’s offseason moves, the guard-vs.-tackle debate, and why the Dennis Allen hire has been underrated throughout the offseason (30:00).
Host: Jason Goff 
Guests: Matt Miller and Matt Bowen 
Producer: Kyle Williams

Jason Goff is a contributor to The Ringer and host of the Chicago sports podcast ‘The Full Go.’ He is also the pre- and postgame host for the Chicago Bulls and a longtime media personality in the city of Chicago.

Jason Goff

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“The Two Matts!” With Matt Miller and Matt Bowen

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