Comparing Cena’s Heel Turn to Hogan’s. Plus, Bianca’s Role in Jade’s Attack.

Ben, Khal, and Brian kick off the show by discussing whether or not John Cena’s heel turn was bigger than Hulk Hogan’s in 1996 (1:05). Then, David joins in, and they all discuss the following:

• Iyo Sky is the women’s world champion (13:47)
• Jade Cargill attacked Naomi and the role Bianca Belair had in everything (28:22)
• CM Punk went after his enemies and brawled with Seth Rollins (40:25)

In Nostalgia Freakz, they look back at Goldberg’s 23-second win over Kevin Owens in 2017 to become WWE Universal champion (49:55).

Then, they go to the Worldwide hotline and react to calls regarding the best segments of all time and wild-card picks for the United States championship at WrestleMania 41 (64:03).

Read David’s new piece on The Ringer, where he details John Cena’s long-awaited heel turn.

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Hosts: Ben Cruz, Khal Davenport, and Brian H. Waters
Guest: David Shoemaker
Producer: Brian H. Waters